Consequently, the sniping community has been looking at the high velocity 6mm cartridge as a possible solution. . Today, youll find the versatile 243 Win with a bullet in one of two weight classes: 55-85 grains, which is suitable for rodents up to coyote, and 90-115 grains, like 100 grain Remington Core-Lokt 243 ammo. 969 - 6.5-243 WSSM 1102 - 22-250 1143 - .243 WSSM 1165 - 0.243 1230 - .220 Swift 1273 - 25-06 1329 - 300 Weatherby 1358 - 223 WSSM 1499 - 264 WM 1620 - 257 Weatherby 1746 - 30-378 So yes the .223 WSSM is getting up there into legendary 264 WM barrel burning country. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The issue is actually more about the length of the bolt action than the round itself. 95%. Basically, they look very similar, so .. . JavaScript is disabled. All the 243 WSSM factory rounds are unsuitable for long range target popping. For many custom gunsmiths building an African rifle on a budget, the 1917 is a starting point, explicitly because it is so massively over-built. A G-1 of .276? The first of the majors to . The Noslers are a bit higher. Perhaps if they renamed the cartridge the .243 W-i-n-c-h-e-s-t-e-r Super Short Id get it, but the magnum label implies something a bit hotter than the .243 Win. It was appreciated. Ammo magazine ar-15 pistol platforms Brownells. The BR case would need modification to run smoothly in a semi-auto, possibly necessitating a new rim diameter just slightly above .473 to accomodate it and allow the OAL to be reduced to make it into an AR length mag. It is a lot of extra work to make into a tack driver and the smiths I have talked to say its easier to work up the 243 win. This cartridge is at its best with heavier bullets, the cartridge seems to have an inherit accuracy potential as cartridges go. But Ive seen that tiny round zip through everything but the vitals too many times to recommend it for a new shooter whos shot placement is less than perfect. The maximum effective range of a .243 can reach more than 1,000 yards. An obscure (all things relative) boutique cartridge, that isnt, you know, available. However, its performance deteriorates at longer ranges as it decelerates with reduced wounding potential. Based on a necked down 308 Win case, the 243 Win offers lighter bullets, higher muzzle velocities, and less muzzle energy than its predecessor. The 243 WSSM is .mw-parser-output .frac{white-space:nowrap}.mw-parser-output .frac .num,.mw-parser-output .frac .den{font-size:80%;line-height:0;vertical-align:super}.mw-parser-output .frac .den{vertical-align:sub}.mw-parser-output .sr-only{border:0;clip:rect(0,0,0,0);height:1px;margin:-1px;overflow:hidden;padding:0;position:absolute;width:1px}38in (9.5mm) shorter than the 243 Win, giving the 243 WSSM the ability to fit in a super-short action rifle. The .243 WSSM used with the 95-grain SBST and the 115-grain could represent significant progress in ballistic performance for snipers. I personally think the .243 WSSM most excellent for varminting, small game, medium, and even some Big Game at the appropriate distances. I will second the opinion that you should discuss this with your gunsmith. My first rifle was a Browning a-bolt 2 in .243WSSM bought in 09 it was second hand and abused (the feed lips were blacksmithed with vicegrips) the thing looked as though it lived in the back of a ute. This lets the snipers shoot longer ranges with better reliability and consistency than the .308. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.243_Winchester_Super_Short_Magnum&oldid=1137104093, This page was last edited on 2 February 2023, at 20:46. Internet "Experts" are a dime a dozen and will not be of any help if, and when, any problems should appear. The #1 enemy of barrels is heat. Those dont have great BCs. . Required fields are marked *. Blairsville, Ga. Mar 16, 2009 #1 I currently do alot of varmint and coyote hunting at long ranges. The M14 and FAL magazines should be able to accept the long cartridge, resulting in minimal recoil. Please help to demonstrate the notability of the topic by citing, notability guidelines for products and services, Learn how and when to remove this template message, Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute. It is capable of accurate shooting at long range, and is commonly used in long-range competitions. If you think the .243WSSM is hard to feed give it to DArcy Echols he will make it feed it is all geometry and math.He used to purposely get a table at the CADA show in Denver next to Don Allen whos rifles were pretty but did not feed worth a _______. The tactical combination of the flat trajectory, low recoil, and ability to feed through AR rifles stands out as potential solutions. It is an entirely competent cartridge for hunting anything in North America up to and including elk. Show Results Show Results. While the hunting world can certainly survive without the .223 and .243 WSSM's, the .25 WSSM has (or had) some truly great advantages as a youth cartridge and rifle combination. Remember my rants about how there are other rifles than the AR-15, folks? This is where I could re-post those rants, but I wont, because I dont like repeating myself. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a8b1a83a6dc9085f984ccc53d8e6bfef" );document.getElementById("c66d09f25a").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Everyone knows the 5.56 is a squirrel round, and they all want to come up with the Magic Solution. 243 wssm brass For Sale I don't know why this is what it is S shortgrass Well-Known Member LRH Supporter Joined Mar 31, 2010 Messages 3,581 Location Weatherford, Oklahoma Jan 1, 2015 #5 I think I'd plan on buying the reamer, too. It was also proven as a competition caliber in long range precision shooting before more modern fads and technology started edging in on its accolades. core lokt @ .314 (150gr) or W;nchester power point @ .294 its enough to make a huge difference downrange. These gunmakers will tend to straighten out the dog-leg in the bolt handle, lop off the sight ears on the rear of the receiver, then polish it up, smooth out the trigger, hang a custom barrel on it, then start working on the magazine/bottom metal. Not bad for a semi-auto ar-15 platform. Prior to the 243 Winchester's arrival, America's most versatile, light-recoil, "dual-purpose" cartridges for hunting varmints and deer were the 250-3000 Savage and 257 Roberts. The walker is moving at 4mph at full value. In addition, both of the new calibers have offerings that are designed with light, thin-skinned game in mind, making them good combination cartridges. You real might want to consider the custom barrel as mentioned. 243 Win Once Fired Brass Bullet Casings - Cleaned pk/50. Im a bit picky. Though initially developed as a match cartridge, the .243 Winchester has found its place in hunters hearts across the U.S. Its ability to make fast, accurate shots at long-range appeals to both target shooters and hunters alike. Unsubscribe at any time. Trouble is theres not as much there for your money as youd like. . fill rate of the cartridge. A well-placed shot will take down most game animals available in North America within 500 yards (0.46 km). . With a cartridge overall length of 2.71 inches, it fits perfectly in a short-action receiver; the parent .308 Winchester defines the standard short-action receiver length. Winchester brought us .243 Winchester as a caliber for varmint hunting and target shooting. A 1 in 9 twist .243 will stabilize the Hornady and Berger 105-107 grain VLD bullets that have b.c.s in the high 500s. Once you have a correctly seasoned barrel and it is on your hunting or mission specific rifle dont rapid fire it and allow it to get excessively over heated. A slower barrel twist of 1:10 is generally adequate to stabilize bullets weighing up to 100 grains, while the accuracy of heavier, higher ballistic coefficient bullets is improved by a 1:7 or 1:8 twist. Winchester thought of the .243 Win. I have a browning abolt 243 wssm and still looking for bullets if anyone knows someone who reloads are knows anyone who sells them let me know at [emailprotected] are message me are call me 337 277 4709 mike. But first of all, understand how much your wife will let you spend! now stick that into your ballistic calculator .At 2000yd the projectile is akin to a .22LR standard. It has so many negative against it and a reputation that was purely conjured up by peoples last lusting for a military rifle that was wood and steel, then many threw off the wood! Winchester introduced the 243 Win in 1955. In order to get the OAL down to be the same as the 5.56/.223, the shoulder will need to be bumped back and the neck possibly trimmed a bit. It is popular for hunting deer, pronghorn, and coyote, as well as varmint and small game. . The distributors who have heard of it have never seen it, and others have never heard of it. I hear nothing but great things about those production rifles. Experienced shootists learned this oh-so-long-ago with the .22-250. Joined Jan 24, 2020 Messages 93 Location Washington. . Instead, they just hoped to retro fit it into existing platforms. The only downside is availability of ammo. Although such technical aspects are way above my head, I know they are important to the performance of Super Short Magnum cartridges. I agree; for sporting and long-range applications the AR-15 platform is generally barking up the wrong tree. Using a Shilen select match barrel or other quality barrel, accuracy can be easily sub MOA. First, know that the shape, mathematics, and engineering behind the case design is very important. Get gun deals, hand's on reviews, educational content and updates on law changes daily! Picking the appropriate long-range cartridge is an important part of putting together the right setup for long-range shooting. No recoil, very short action and drops whitetails like a Mack truck. Ballistics and Drop for the .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM) Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 1.67" Width: 0.544" Average FPS: 3198 Average Energy: 2228 Average Gr: 86 Recoil: 1.37 Power Rank: 2.55 of 20 The .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum (.243 WSSM) was designed in 2003 by Browning and Winchester. It is a true joy to shoot as well. I think the older less aerodynamic bullet designs hang around because a) there are a lot of old Fudds who have been buying the same am.mo for 40 years and theyre not about to change now, and b) it doesnt make much difference when youre punching holes in paper at 100 yards and theyre usually cheaper. SKU : HP22ARMN. Chopping the action down might help, and it might not. The money youd save on am-mo would quickly pay for the extra couple hundred bucks over an A-R 15 upper. Heavy barrel and the synthetic stock that I use for dogs. .308 youd be completely right. Join 212,000 avid gun enthusiasts and claim your print-at-home shooting drills. These properties combine to give the .243 WSSM excellent long-range performance. The biggest problem that I have found is that the winchester brass has a thick neck and is somewhat "lumpy" which requires turning the neck down on each case. Stay with me here . There is no factory loaded 243 WSSM round with a high BC target type bullet. Loaded with controlled expanding conventional bullets, the .243 has ample power to penetrate medium sized deer shoulder bones but will not necessarily exit broadside. Required fields are marked *. Read the article, .243 (aka 6mm) is a STANDARD caliber size. The holdover for small targets like coyotes is not bad at 500yds either. The 243 WSSM is an addition to the Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM) family of cartridges, which also include the .223 WSSM and the .25 WSSM, and the idea behind the 243 WSSM was to develop a compact, higher velocity version of the well-established and internationally popular .243 Winchester unveiled by Winchester in 1955. The powder of choice here is H4350 I run the 107grers at 3050 fps, I could easily push it up quite a bit with no pressure, but I dont really need more for 1k and it gives me longer barrel life. [1] The percentage gain in performance over the older .243 Winchester is around 10% or less. The .243 is a cartridge that can perform either admirably or dismally with results entirely dependent on the aptitude of the hunter. not trying to sound like a smarta-- but if he's gonna do it, he should be discussing with you what to get and just as importantly,what not to get. You may have heard that one of the reasons the .243 WSSM withered on the vine was that it burned up barrels too fast. But comparing apples to apples like a 150gr. Heat comes from two things: powder burning (and blow-by) and bullet friction. A lot of modern technology helped it get its primary and supporting characteristics. I'm Mike, one of the oldest writer of Sniper Country! IMHO, those are kinda on the upper end of the necessary case capacity and generate unnecessarily strong recoil. ), and .240 Weatherby. . I have since long throated the chamber to allow for David Tubb 115g projectiles to be seated forward (OAL 2.400) this leaves only the boattail in the boiler room so 45g of ADI 2213SC for 3050 fps. I was eying up the .243 and .243 WSSM. It is far more costly to design and manufacture a new receiver format than a new cartridge. Bergers 115-grain Very Low Drag boat tail hollow point bullet resolves the ability to buck wind when compared with the .300. The whole point is that that the OAL of the .243 WSSM would allow you to fit the rounds into an AR-15 magazine and up the mag well without hogging the crap out of the lower and upper to make it feed. Especially when people start trying to turn it into a precision rifle (the military only did it because thats all they had on hand, again, and again). This weight is more appropriate for whitetail deer and other small-medium sized game. I just need to know where and what to look for. Ive got AR15 pattern rifles in 5.56, 6.5Grendel, 6.8SPC, .338Spectre, .and 458SOCOM. The .243 Win. 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